Posts by froglady

    For those who don't speak American English as a first language, a "hot potato" is something you have to get rid of as soon as possible (like a literal hot potato that's burning your bare hands). It could also be something that could get you into trouble. As a kid, we played a game called "hot potato", where kids stood in a circle and threw a beanbag as quickly as possible to anyone in the circle randomly. So you had the beanbag in your cupped hands and shoveled it to someone else, who had to shovel it off to someone else as soon as they caught it, etc. If you didn't catch it, you were out. Last one left wins.
    So perhaps this slang is also common in other countries. And just perhaps you have to treat this as a "hot potato" and gift it, then having the next owner gift it, until it is passed around to a few others before coming back to someone who has owned it before, whereupon it becomes "baked". Worth a try, I guess.

    Here's my best shot in my limited German:

    Yes, I've found that the hare is the brown one (I remember it by thinking of brown hair). The rabbit is grey (like our wild cottontail rabbits). Bunny is any, including the snow bunny. They are both greyish-brown (the hare) or brownish-grey (the rabbit) instead of pure brown and pure grey, but the color is obviously different.


    European Hare (brown hare):

    Cottontail rabbit:

    Sometimes people will drop a seed to make room for event plants, save the plant number and search it up to re-claim it if it's still not been adopted. Or if they accidentally breed too many and the seed drops they can find it by going to the parent plant and clicking its number from the "offspring". So it's not so mysterious how the same person found their seed again. Evidently they then decided they didn't want it. I have picked up plants that had been floating around in the Wild Garden for several months on more than one occasion. The older and more common the plant variety, the more likely it will not get snapped up by a lot of players.

    Using the money you earned for your product is not necessarily a bad thing. No one says the money you give has to be used exclusively for the site and not the owner. I personally know a site owner who started her site in her teens, helped put herself through college with the profit after the site hosting, etc. bills were paid every month and is now out with a degree in computer programming, whereupon she re-coded the entire site and improved it by light-years. She did use the money for herself, but only after the site costs were paid, and she was very upfront on the terms and conditions page and the donations page that if the site ever went very long without getting enough donations to keep it open she would close it instead of drowning financially trying to keep it up. I respect that. It's honest and open. People who create and administer a website should get something for their time, but they need to run the site as a business. If your local restaurant can't make the rent because it's not making enough money, it has to shut down, not just get put into cold storage until the next need for money comes along, then re-opened to commit emotional blackmail on its customers once again.

    Zwieback is a type of crispbread. It means "twice baked" in German, because that's how it's made. It's sort of like German biscotti, except it's usually the standard bread slice shape. So just look for something that looks like bread and you'll find it.

    There are some site owners or coders or artists (or some who are all three) out there that you just know are gonna flake sooner or later. They change names and start new sites or take jobs on other sites, but sometimes you can still spot an art style or game ideas or game mechanics or even their forum post style. I can think of 3 coders and 4 artists who have faded away into oblivion leaving more than one site owner hanging (or forking over more money to someone else to re-do art on the site because the artist withdraws permission to use his/her work). And I can think of at least half a dozen site owners/admins who either never got their games out of pre-paid alpha (if they even launched alpha, or just took the money and disappeared, taking down the forum a couple months later) or have closed games serially after they became too much work. Usually they show up again in a couple months on another project. I'm not saying that Silver is one of them, but there are a lot of people out there who will go *poof* and not even tell you what's up. I don't mind a game closing if the owner is honest and open about it, or if it closes because the coder poofed and there's no way to fix their funky code and no new updates to keep players interested, but it really bothers me for people to duck and cover instead of owning up.

    I'm with Tru--I usually use an avatar related to the site I'm on. But I signed up here as froglady, so I found a cute stuffed frog. My avatars are always gender-neutral. I don't care for people knowing I'm female.
    And the comment about younger people thinking they invented gaming was aimed at the teens and 20-somethings out there who think anyone over 30 is too old to play, and don't mind telling you so in not-so-nice terms. There are a lot of them out there on browser-based games.
    The thing about females in the family being gamers holds true in my family, as well. Mom, my sister and I all played games. My dad didn't get it. My sister, her daughter and her son play, but her husband could care less. I think her son only got into games because he played them with his big sis.

    Everyone knows I'm female from my username. But on a lot of sites I use "eljay" and most people think I'm a guy. Don't know why. Jedi's writing style and thought processes confounded me, honestly, because she seemed female but had a male avatar. I think a majority of people who play browser games are female, so we tend to think of fellow players as probably female. By the way, I'm 54. I play on sites where you don't dare talk about your age, but I know lots of older players who just play and don't talk much. So there are probably more of us out there than you think. Many young people seem to think that they invented games and that gaming is the province of the young, but my mom is still a gamer at 81. And those of us who remember feeding quarters to pinball machines (and later Pac-Man and Galaga and Tetris machines) were singularly dedicated to gaming, as we had to leave the house armed with change and play standing up against a big machine in a bowling alley or bar or roller rink, pizza parlor, etc.

    The witches' mushrooms are for Walpurgisnacht (Walpurgis Night), which is April 30. It's sort of a second Hallowe'en, because witches supposedly have the strongest powers that night. It's the night before May Day, and it supposedly used to be a pagan fertility festival. I believe that in previous years the mushrooms appear on the actual holiday and then persist for a week or two after.

    Under the Suggestions/Request heading there is a dedicated thread for spelling or grammar errors. The staff writes in German, then translates it to English, so some errors are bound to creep in. Using one thread keeps it neater and easier for them to find.

    Easiest way to get to the Garden Gate (the front page of the site) is to click that "Flowergame" tab at the top of the forum. Takes you right there.

    The event plants all have to be "released" in batches by the admins, so the first batch often gets snapped up quickly by those sitting poised waiting. Don't worry, there will be more batches released. Everyone can only take 4 at a time max, so there will be plenty for everyone.

    Clicks get you water. Views get you sun. Neither makes plants grow faster (except by keeping water and/or sun at a max if you're gone for a few days). So if you keep your water and sun up with the minigames, clicks and views do nothing.

    I know I've seen several people saying gardenia couldn't be in because it's white. I think that restriction really only exists in already-drawn flowers with no background to contrast white. Gardenia should be fine. It's a lovely shrub with big shiny dark-green leaves that could provide a ready background for the white blooms.

    Grammatically, "you" is both singular and plural. It's a nightmare in practical spoken English, though, as one often can't tell if someone is addressing you, yourself or if they are addressing the group you are in. And there's that "they" cropping up in that last sentence. It's American English's compromise because there is no good singular neuter third person pronoun. It's either "he" or "she", and often if you are speaking in general terms, it can be a problem of assigning gender to a hypothetical person when none is meant.
    Also, "you" is used as in "anyone", as in "you have to be careful about who you date". It's meant as a general statement, but can sound like it's directed at one person (the listener), in which case the speaker might be seen as insulting or being too personal.

    I worked with a Hawai'ian man several years ago. He suggested not even trying to understand some of the pidgin or slang expressions if I ever went there. He told me a few, but I've forgotten over 15 years. But I have had pansit, as I work with a lot of Filipina nurses. Veggie spaghetti = pansit with tomatoes = hilarious.


    I've been to Italy and dated an Italian, and I still don't understand all the subtleties of many of the expressions. Not that I know that many. I'm not sure of the one you broached.


    I'm afraid I used the word "nonsense" in my original post, meaning words or expressions that seem to make no sense in literal terms, but have meaning in idiomatic language. So I'm sure that's what Idril was referring to.

    I love the Finnish confusion. It's interesting and amusing, and just what I was after with this thread.


    Where I come from, in Appalachia (West Virginia), we say, "What are you about?" for "What are you doing?" if you're actively engaged in something. If it's something we can help you do, we will. But we still use, "What are you up to?" or "What are you doing (now, later, lately--which means "recently" or "since I saw you last")?" as a general greeting. And "Where you at?" is perfectly acceptable there as a substitute for "Where are you?"
    And, of course, if there is more than one person being addressed it's "you two" or "you all". Which is what even Americans doing Southern impersonations get wrong all the time--"you all" is always plural, because English seems to be one of the only languages without a satisfactory form for the plural "you".

    We were talking in the Translation thread about how hard it can be to use a computer translator to make sense of idiomatic or slang expressions. I'm sure all of us who speak English have more than a few that we know have baffled people trying to learn our twisted language. I'd be interested to hear a few from other languages, as well.


    So I'll start with my favorite German expression my Opa von Steiner used to use on me: "Aufgehe!" If you put it into a translator, you'd probably get something on the order of "Get out!" Really, it means "Get up! (out of bed)".


    My favorite English nonsense expression is "by the way". It can mean "oh, while I'm saying this, I'll add something", or "just incidentally, I noticed (fill in the blank)". But you can also say you left something (or someone) "by the way(side)", meaning you lost it or abandoned it. And you can also use it to mean you actually found something lying next to the road. Which leads to "stumbled upon", which isn't the same as "stumbled over"...


    Oh, we could go on in that vein forever. But what's your favorite confusing phrase you know from your own language or from having been confounded by it in another?

    Literally: A little chocolate cake with little sugar hearts. So: A chocolate cupcake with candy hearts. From there the idioms take over and literal translation word-for-word is impossible. Like Idril said, it basically means that even for the pixies/elves love is in the air on Valentine's.


    If you put idiomatic English (or any other language) into Google translate, you still get the same sort of gibberish into other languages. Word-for-word translation will only get you so far. Sometimes you can suss out what's meant and sometimes you can't.

    It's one of the plants gardeners call "elephant ears". Like many common names, this one is shared with several other plants. In this case, the common name could refer to this plant, its relative Colocasia (the genus that includes taro) and the unrelated Caladium and Dieffenbachia. All have big pointy leaves that are sort of skinny heart-shaped. Caladium comes in bright colors, but as far as I know, Alocasia is just green with green or white veins. Still will be interesting to see if there is more than one variety.